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Edward Hill 1817 parents?

Visit to Worcestershire History Centre 26th May 2010

Research Quest

Find Edward Hill (1817) on Alvechurch parish registers and discover who his parents were.

Conclusion

It is probable that Edward Hill was born in 1817 and baptized in Alvechurch in 1922.  It is therefore also probable that his parents were Thomas and Mary Hill.

It is possible that Thomas Hill, Edward’s father, died aged 66 in 1827 which accounts for the entry on Edward’s marriage certificate.

Background
Have established that Edward Hill married Mary Winnall in 1841.  On the marriage certificate the entry under the column for father is given as ‘none’ for Edward.

This may imply that Edward was illegitimate.  Equally it could imply that Edward’s father was dead, or, indeed that Edward had disowned him.

Research.

In the Alvechurch baptism register for the period in question only one Edward Hill appears.

Date YMD Name Parents Occupation Location
1816 10 27 John Joseph and Elizabeth Hill Labourer
1816 1027 Thomas Joseph and Elizabeth Hill Labourer
1822 09 22 Edward Thomas and Mary Hill Labourer
1832 09 09 Hannah Thomas and Jane Hill Nailer
1832 09 09 Moses Thomas and Jane Hill Nailer
1830 06 06 John illegitimate son of Ann Hill
1828 08 17 Elizabeth illegitimate daughter of Sarah Hill
1826 08 17 William illegitimate son of Hannah Hill
1823 11 09 Charles George and Elizabeth Hill Labourer
1822 01 27 Elizabeth William and Mary Hill Labourer
1821 06 10 Joseph Joseph and Elizabeth Hill Labourer

An Edward Hill, son of Thomas and Mary Hill was baptised on 22nd September 1922.

On latest census returns Edward gives his year of birth at about 1817.  He repeatedly stresses in successive censuses  that he was born in Alvechurch.

There is no reason why Edward shouldn’t have been baptised some years later than when he was born.  So the 1822 baptism could well be his.

If the 1822 baptism was another Edward, assuming he lived, then he should show up on later censuses.

A census search on Ancestry.co.uk for Edward Hill, Alvechurch (giving no birth date) throws up the following results.  This implies that ‘our Edward’ repeatedly states he was born in Alvechurch, and is re the only one of the right age to match the baptism record.  This would further increase the probability that the Edward baptised in 1822 is our Edward.

The burial records during the period in question were also examined.  They are given below:

Date YMD Name Age
1823 Thomas Hill 9
1823 11 25 Joseph Hill 3
1825 04 04 Charles Hill 1
1825 10 09 Elizabeth Hill 44
1827 07 04 Thomas Hill 66
1828 02 24 Mary Hill 77
1832 02 22 Elizabeth Hill 3 1/2
1833 04 07 George Hill 2m
1835 05 07 Ann Hill 14m
1836 09 21 Arthur Hill 11m
1838 04 17 Thomas Hill 9m
1838 11 11 Mary Hill 3m
1839 05 24 Mary Hill 4m

There is no death of an Edward Hill prior to 1841.  So the census information would imply that our Edward Hill is the one baptised in 1822.

Furthermore, in 1827, the burial of a Thomas Hill is recorded.  Thomas Hill was 66 at this time which, if he was Edward’s father, would have made him 56 at the time of Edward’s birth.  In a pre-contraception age it is feasible that Thomas could have been Edward’s father.  If so, his death in 1827 might be the reason why Edward gave ‘none’ as under the father column on the birth certificate.

One thought on “Edward Hill 1817 parents?

  • Sarah says:

    Hi Tim,

    My late Mother was the daughter of Eric Hill, Son of Edward Hill of Piper’s Hill farm, born pedmore and Son of Edward Hill of pedmore! It’s definately the same family. Just stumbled across your site.

    Regards,

    Sarah

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